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  • Originally posted by Nanny Ogg View Post

    I say.............. nice lunch

    PS It's not a question of belief hun, nobody should be surprised at anything Moneyclip gets up to, but we need to hear from someone playing for millions of coins, if they get all their coins back when playing an obvious cheat too.

    If not, then it might just be that they are giving back 100% because it's a low value wager. I bet no-one gets back 25million in Berlin when they lose regardless of who they play.
    Yes it was a very nice and delicious lunch.
    I took two encores and had to sit on my couch for an hour before I could breathe normally again

    But yeah, I would also like to hear from our brothers and sisters whoo play large wagers.
    Are they getting bigger refunds when losing from cheaters?


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    • hmm i have 5 leg cues but i don't like using them since i don't really care about coins and i am too bored to make another statistic
      i actually even gave up on the one i did on my ninja cue but the topic should be still here called "statistical" if i remember right
      plus it's not always easy to identify a cheater, a smart one would never do it in a way that's easy to notice
      many times i feel like i'm against them even without them doing any crazy shots, just simple perfect positional play for a denial
      I love my cue! https://i.ibb.co/Mn4F0sm/gg.png

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      • Originally posted by johndoe View Post
        hmm i have 5 leg cues but i don't like using them since i don't really care about coins and i am too bored to make another statistic
        i actually even gave up on the one i did on my ninja cue but the topic should be still here called "statistical" if i remember right
        plus it's not always easy to identify a cheater, a smart one would never do it in a way that's easy to notice
        many times i feel like i'm against them even without them doing any crazy shots, just simple perfect positional play for a denial
        I agree it is not always possible to be certain if an opponent uses unfair means. But it is a bit like the defiinition of pornography. It is difficult to define it precisely but you know it when you see it.
        Since you are not using your leg cues you are not in a position to answer my query.
        Is there anyone else who uses leg cues and loses bigger bets?
        We would be interested to hear from them.

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        • Originally posted by dhakapapa View Post
          It is difficult to define it precisely
          Actually it isn't that difficult, just show it to your mother and if she doesn't give you a sharp slap across the back of the head then it's not

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          • Originally posted by Nanny Ogg View Post

            Actually it isn't that difficult, just show it to your mother and if she doesn't give you a sharp slap across the back of the head then it's not


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            • dhakapapa

              i already gave you a good suggestion on how to do it yourself and doing something yourself is always better and more accurate
              make a document and write everything down and do it over the course of 100 games at least and then compare results
              1-take a print screen of the guy you suspect of cheating
              2-make a note of your coins and how much you get back

              as Nanny Ogg said sometimes it's really obvious if a guy is hacking, sometimes not so much
              but if you do a statistic it will show over time a lot better than anything else

              even if a few people here test it for you they should do the same statistic and not just throw words over a few games
              it's kinda redundant to do this without a proper analisis like yea i get more coins back when playing vs cheaters...
              not to mention some of the time you cannot be sure if somebody cheats or not, how can you tell then without a proper check?
              I love my cue! https://i.ibb.co/Mn4F0sm/gg.png

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              • Originally posted by Nanny Ogg View Post

                Actually it isn't that difficult, just show it to your mother and if she doesn't give you a sharp slap across the back of the head then it's not

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                • Originally posted by johndoe View Post
                  dhakapapa

                  i already gave you a good suggestion on how to do it yourself and doing something yourself is always better and more accurate
                  make a document and write everything down and do it over the course of 100 games at least and then compare results
                  1-take a print screen of the guy you suspect of cheating
                  2-make a note of your coins and how much you get back

                  as Nanny Ogg said sometimes it's really obvious if a guy is hacking, sometimes not so much
                  but if you do a statistic it will show over time a lot better than anything else

                  even if a few people here test it for you they should do the same statistic and not just throw words over a few games
                  it's kinda redundant to do this without a proper analisis like yea i get more coins back when playing vs cheaters...
                  not to mention some of the time you cannot be sure if somebody cheats or not, how can you tell then without a proper check?
                  I might go for that when I will be locked up in a hotel for 15 days quarantine in Bangkok probably from next week.

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                  • It is annoying that once the game has come to an end, it is no longer possible to click on the opponent's avatar to see the profile.
                    To record the game one has to get the profile of every player before the game ends and take a screen shot.
                    Even better would be to make a video of each game. That is quite labour intensive and time intensive. I do not think I can find that kind of motivation to do that.

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                    • dhakapapa yea it's usually best to check profile right at the start, i almost always do that to know what to expect
                      when it comes to analysis, i mostly did it for me but i shared the results however not many people seemed to care

                      https://miniclipforum.com/forum/mult...44-statistical
                      it's discontinued and i gave up since i mostly gathered the data i wanted and i got the cues i was collecting as well
                      the more games you compare the better the results but it's quite a time consuming process
                      I love my cue! https://i.ibb.co/Mn4F0sm/gg.png

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                      • Originally posted by dhakapapa View Post
                        It is annoying that once the game has come to an end, it is no longer possible to click on the opponent's avatar to see the profile.
                        To record the game one has to get the profile of every player before the game ends and take a screen shot.
                        Even better would be to make a video of each game. That is quite labour intensive and time intensive. I do not think I can find that kind of motivation to do that.
                        Im sure there are many faster and easier ways to record games than my way Dhaka, but i use Bandicam to record my games. Once you have it set up, its only a matter of turning it on. The free version records for 10 minutes at a time, and its usually only around 2 clicks to get it recording again after those 10 minutes are up. Then its simply a matter of uploading to a youtube channel after that.

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                        • Along the lines of what COOLOCKER said, the 2 programs I use are Vokoscreen and Simple Screen Recorder (although I don't think the 2nd is available on Windows). Either of those has the bare minimum needed to record a fixed rectangle, have pause / stop / start / etc.

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                          • met another one of those 'connection is slow' exploiters, i would get that on my turn and run out of time
                            if i did manage to play my turn and pot 1-2 balls, the table would reset and go back in time
                            once the game even booted me out, it reconnected itself to bluestacks and restarted
                            i managed to get to my last ball but it was reset again so i just left, should have done that from start to save time
                            i don't care at all about the coins but i don't want to give free wins to those types of people without trying
                            I love my cue! https://i.ibb.co/Mn4F0sm/gg.png

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                            • This morning all I saw was 504 Gateway Time-out

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                              • Originally posted by bogus6948 View Post
                                This morning all I saw was 504 Gateway Time-out
                                This morning I was getting 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable

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                                • And Another Thing !


                                  So........ both my main and my main alt are at 199 at the moment and both require approx 250,000 exp to reach the Level 200 milestone



                                  So........I'm using epic cues for the exp bonus to speed things along a little ( one has 20% and the other has 10% ).



                                  So.......normally I don't even look at the exp points at the end of a game, I just leave and move quickly on to the next opponent however..... I've been looking today for obvious reasons and I noticed that while using my ten percent cue on a 10m win I get 11000+ exp but the bonus is only 940 !

                                  On a 500k game I get 4800 exp but 404 bonus


                                  So.......is there a reason I'm getting less than 10% ? or is it just another example of Moneyclips incompetence ?



                                  Also, surely the difference between the exp earned on a 10m game should be a lot more than it is compared to a 500k game right ?



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                                  • Heh, I wish I flagged that conversation d4ve_tv and I had about this same exact thing ... but of course I didn't flag it ... but now I have flagged it

                                    The gist of it starts at this post

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                                    • I saw something I have not seen previously today, the person I was playing drew back the cue, then held it as the time expired.

                                      What I've seen every time something similar has shown up before is that the turn passes to the next player, however this time, AFTER the timer ran out, the shot was made

                                      And I don't mean the cue started moving before the timer hit 0, I mean the timer hit 0, I thought it was now my turn, THEN the shot was made about a second later

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                                      • ,,, and a ps. I am not going back to the emulator no matter HOW many times I see that stupid 504 Gateway Time-out

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                                        • Nanny Ogg I'm also getting 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable. Did it fix itself for you, or am I not gonna be able to play?

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