Programmed and RIGGED!!!

[Jahsun]

Can miniclips please respond, why is 8 ball pool Rigged in so many ways, firstly lots of people know and agree the scratch and spin win are rigged, ive had lately 1000s of them not won 1x 500,000, ok i can deal with that BUT what i cant deal with you are rigging games so opponent wins, Spin and win 97/98% of the time always land on the 1/4 section of low coin payout

1.How on earth can a balls roll flush against the cushions and hit the knuckle of pockets? please explain how, that's impossible so did the knuckle of pockets all of a sudden stick out?
2.Balls speeding up and slowing down unpredictable to favor opponents to win, especially on higher table coin games , Again coin losses
3.Cue Time for some reason starting at different points so you have less time on shots
4.Taken shot and pocketed your own ball, then all of a sudden you haven't potted the ball and its goes to the shot of opponent, how can that happen?
5.On higher coin tables it even when you are on say stripes or solids, it says wrong ball when clearly its your ball, It deceive you to pot other balls, again favor opponents, yet again coin loss
6.The amount of balls that bizarrely jump slightly from of the knuckles of the pockets yet again to favor opponent to win , yet again coin loss
7.Also straight shot with no power aim straight as a die , can even hit the corner of the pockets insane behavior, yet again coin loss

Please miniclips don't take me for fool, I've been playing this game for many many years, the early days when you used to make you own avatars 15 years plus

This must stop its deceiving, manipulating and harboring on theft, people pay a lot of money for this game, cues, boxes, pool pass, coins, game money ect

I can even mention more but i leave it as this, People please be aware!

[Nanny Ogg]

Welcome to the forum Jahsun

You make some very valid points however Miniclip ( or Moneyclip as we call them ) won't respond to you here because this forum is privately owned and operated and has absolutely no dealings with Miniclip the company.

It is doubtful that anyone who works for Moneyclip ever comes here so they won't read your post or even see it.

I'm glad to see you're still playing after all those years, I am also a long time player ( I created my first account back in 2011 ).

Have you migrated over to the mobile version or are you still a PC player like me ?

[Jahsun]

Hi there Nanny ogg thanks for the reply , yes ive moved over to mobile version now few months ago tbh, And shame that my msg won't get any response i didn't forum is privately owned.

money clip lol dam right...Just a shame the game i used to love gets vey infuriating, frustrating and can drive you insane tbh ...

Thanks all

[johndoe]

yea i definitely encountered some if not all of the above. some are hacks some can be bad luck but anybody that's played for a good amount of time should be aware of these things

[COOLOCKER]

Welcome to the forum Jahsun . Just a few thoughts on your points above:

Ive experienced all of the points you mention except for 2 and 4. Its infuriating at times. I wish i could pin it down to either a glitch, or a hack, but cant? The ones that happen to me the most are points 1, 5, and 7. Question though? Does point 2 happen to you in normal games, or in tournaments? Because tournaments (or at least i think its tournaments?) has a shot clock where you sometimes see the clock starting at different points if your still on the table potting ball after ball.

Jah Live.

[Tricky]

Yep - winning is simple, working out how to avoid the miniclip traps is a nightmare!

[undiscovad]

Welcome Jahsun ...
its so demotivating when these cheats or "bad luck" happens but I guess that's what Money clip wants...

[Ryan Cawdor]

Can miniclips please respond, why is 8 ball pool Rigged in so many ways, firstly lots of people know and agree the scratch and spin win are rigged, ive had lately 1000s of them not won 1x 500,000, ok i can deal with that BUT what i cant deal with you are rigging games so opponent wins, Spin and win 97/98% of the time always land on the 1/4 section of low coin payout

1.How on earth can a balls roll flush against the cushions and hit the knuckle of pockets? please explain how, that's impossible so did the knuckle of pockets all of a sudden stick out?
2.Balls speeding up and slowing down unpredictable to favor opponents to win, especially on higher table coin games , Again coin losses
3.Cue Time for some reason starting at different points so you have less time on shots
4.Taken shot and pocketed your own ball, then all of a sudden you haven't potted the ball and its goes to the shot of opponent, how can that happen?
5.On higher coin tables it even when you are on say stripes or solids, it says wrong ball when clearly its your ball, It deceive you to pot other balls, again favor opponents, yet again coin loss
6.The amount of balls that bizarrely jump slightly from of the knuckles of the pockets yet again to favor opponent to win , yet again coin loss
7.Also straight shot with no power aim straight as a die , can even hit the corner of the pockets insane behavior, yet again coin loss

Please miniclips don't take me for fool, I've been playing this game for many many years, the early days when you used to make you own avatars 15 years plus

This must stop its deceiving, manipulating and harboring on theft, people pay a lot of money for this game, cues, boxes, pool pass, coins, game money ect

I can even mention more but i leave it as this, People please be aware!

#4 and #5 due to network issues I think.... basically the miniclip servers are out of sync with what your computer reports for the balls, positions, etc... I've experienced this many times after the break...in fact, there have been many times when i made the 9 on the break only for it to immediately spot back up and then it's the opponent's turn...very irritating.

#6 is very annoying, i've seen this happen to me...

Miniclip needs to pull their heads out of their asses....

[tada]

one more thing during weekend ,if you play in the high end table 90% hacker or pc play with you lol . on Mumbai table if you play 10 game they only give you max 4 break and the rest are your opponent

[Tricky]

You are super lucky to get 4 breaks in 10, i just played the winstreak challenge and got just 1 break..

To improve your odds you need to drop down the tiers and wait until you haven’t had a break for a few games before returning to Mumbai.

[nh33fan]

Can miniclips please respond, why is 8 ball pool Rigged in so many ways, firstly lots of people know and agree the scratch and spin win are rigged, ive had lately 1000s of them not won 1x 500,000, ok i can deal with that BUT what i cant deal with you are rigging games so opponent wins, Spin and win 97/98% of the time always land on the 1/4 section of low coin payout

1.How on earth can a balls roll flush against the cushions and hit the knuckle of pockets? please explain how, that's impossible so did the knuckle of pockets all of a sudden stick out?
2.Balls speeding up and slowing down unpredictable to favor opponents to win, especially on higher table coin games , Again coin losses
3.Cue Time for some reason starting at different points so you have less time on shots
4.Taken shot and pocketed your own ball, then all of a sudden you haven't potted the ball and its goes to the shot of opponent, how can that happen?
5.On higher coin tables it even when you are on say stripes or solids, it says wrong ball when clearly its your ball, It deceive you to pot other balls, again favor opponents, yet again coin loss
6.The amount of balls that bizarrely jump slightly from of the knuckles of the pockets yet again to favor opponent to win , yet again coin loss
7.Also straight shot with no power aim straight as a die , can even hit the corner of the pockets insane behavior, yet again coin loss

Please miniclips don't take me for fool, I've been playing this game for many many years, the early days when you used to make you own avatars 15 years plus

This must stop its deceiving, manipulating and harboring on theft, people pay a lot of money for this game, cues, boxes, pool pass, coins, game money ect

I can even mention more but i leave it as this, People please be aware!

There cracking down on all the cheaters? Every time theres a tournament one of the top 3 winners is advertising coin selling right in his avatar. If you go to the club hes in they are also advertising coin selling in his club. And they do adsolutly nothing about it.

[Jahsun]

#4 and #5 due to network issues I think.... basically the miniclip servers are out of sync with what your computer reports for the balls, positions, etc... I've experienced this many times after the break...in fact, there have been many times when i made the 9 on the break only for it to immediately spot back up and then it's the opponent's turn...very irritating.

#6 is very annoying, i've seen this happen to me...

Miniclip needs to pull their heads out of their asses....

Hi there just a clarification, its not the network issue i understand that, its when you are actually in a game no cutting out of network ect,,,hope we on the same page ect,All the best bro..Its happen to me playing a game one last but one ball to pot, then it says not your ball as the aim has highlighted up, you pot the opposite ball as its highlighted , then it give opponent the shot, hope that makes sense..

heads out of their asses, 100% agree,

[Jahsun]

Welcome to the forum Jahsun . Just a few thoughts on your points above:

Ive experienced all of the points you mention except for 2 and 4. Its infuriating at times. I wish i could pin it down to either a glitch, or a hack, but cant? The ones that happen to me the most are points 1, 5, and 7. Question though? Does point 2 happen to you in normal games, or in tournaments? Because tournaments (or at least i think its tournaments?) has a shot clock where you sometimes see the clock starting at different points if your still on the table potting ball after ball.

Jah Live.

Point 2 yes it happens in all games low and high, not allways it seems to happen at very important times on potting balls, more on higher coin tables...bless

[Tricky]

The question that irks me is that all the regular players i know that get to an above average skill level end up getting less than 50% of the break - and often much less. My record is being on the receiving end of 9 Mumbai denials in a row, and 3 in a row happens at least weekly.

So who is getting more than their share of breaks? I initially thought that it might be a perk of being black diamond - nearly every opponent of mine is black diamond i notice.

It’s either that or the conspiracy theory that Miniclip has many bot accounts to try to “encourage” players to spend actual cash to achieve their goals.

I’d be keen to hear from black diamond players to see if they regularly get the break more often than not.

[Fred Jones]

The question that irks me is that all the regular players i know that get to an above average skill level end up getting less than 50% of the break - and often much less. My record is being on the receiving end of 9 Mumbai denials in a row, and 3 in a row happens at least weekly.

So who is getting more than their share of breaks? I initially thought that it might be a perk of being black diamond - nearly every opponent of mine is black diamond i notice.

It’s either that or the conspiracy theory that Miniclip has many bot accounts to try to “encourage” players to spend actual cash to achieve their goals.

I’d be keen to hear from black diamond players to see if they regularly get the break more often than not.

I am on diamond. As I have said I would have blown the money if we could go out, so i am having fun. Got all the leggy cues and my fave firestorm is level 4.

I will start to do an analysis, just playing Sydney and count how many breaks I get. This will get a better analysis than how i usually play trying to get better boxes.

I guess i was getting maybe 45%, but will count from now for a week.

I will also do time and win stats. Any of these variables could affect the algorithms. I edited this and got 3/4 breaks.

Edit @ 5.154 pm my time I will have to do this later my niece is a total pain in the butt and really messes up my concentration.

So far got 70% of breaks but lost 40%. have not done time stats yet

[Ryan Cawdor]

Hi there just a clarification, its not the network issue i understand that, its when you are actually in a game no cutting out of network ect,,,hope we on the same page ect,All the best bro..Its happen to me playing a game one last but one ball to pot, then it says not your ball as the aim has highlighted up, you pot the opposite ball as its highlighted , then it give opponent the shot, hope that makes sense..

heads out of their asses, 100% agree,

yeah... prolly not a networking issue exactly but probably just an issue of syncing between pc/phone and miniclip servers regarding incorrect of the game (position of balls, whose turn etc) ....

I get what ya mean... that type of stuff does happen time to time.... I'm almost 100% confident it's not a cheat tho...just the syncing problem.... because i had this problem and the opponent prolly thought i was cheating. The bug was this: i accidentally potted the 8 ball before I made all my solids... so I should have lost. But what happened instead is the 8B spots back on the table and I get to shoot again. i can't blame the opponent for thinking that i was cheating...

[COOLOCKER]

The question that irks me is that all the regular players i know that get to an above average skill level end up getting less than 50% of the break - and often much less. My record is being on the receiving end of 9 Mumbai denials in a row, and 3 in a row happens at least weekly.

So who is getting more than their share of breaks? I initially thought that it might be a perk of being black diamond - nearly every opponent of mine is black diamond i notice.

It’s either that or the conspiracy theory that Miniclip has many bot accounts to try to “encourage” players to spend actual cash to achieve their goals.

I’d be keen to hear from black diamond players to see if they regularly get the break more often than not.

With a 72% win rate from just under 30K games played, i tend to get the break more often. I would guess i get the break at around 60% of the time. Im not black diamond though.

[cidercoder]

I sometimes get the break when I'm on a win streak of say 5 games, and when I check my opponent he is on zero wins - so I would have expected him to get the break. Similarly I can be on a losing streak and not get the break, even tho my oppo might have a 6 win streak ! Doesn't always make too much sense to me. I guess it's roughly 50/50 but I'd have to log it all down to be more precise !

[Fred Jones]

Out of 15 games I got 12 breaks but it was all in Sydney, that is 80%

usually when I change games like i will now to play 3 X 9 ball mission. It varies. What annoys me is when in a tourney and you are first on the table I rarely get the break

Edit just played 3 games in miami and only got first break, but won them all

[Tricky]

I once logged 100 consecutive Mumbai games, i forget what the exact results were - from memory i was at less than 30% breaks.

These days if i play Mumbai i expect to receive a denial more than 50% of the time - let alone get the break!