"NEW FUN CHALLENGE"

[Deimos]

Well I'm not on here much anymore, and really don't play 8BP much either, just on my phone now occasionally, but just noticed this and thought I'd try QF since I haven't played it in a long time. I play on mobile, and I think I might have to change some settings to speed up the aiming, maybe the tap to aim feature, and or the Cue Sensitivity, IDK, but it is slow where I have it set now, which is great for normal play, but not fast aiming.

My only attempt so far, I'll try again at some point, but don't feel up to it right now. It'll probably be a while before I post again.

I hope everyone is well.

[bogus6948]

Farther than I got my first attempt

[bogus6948]

Here is a (relatively) short video of 7 racks with the standard cue. I set it to 150% speed, hopefully it won't bore everyone else to death

[bogus6948]

Racks using some cues I don't normally use.. ever...

[MaryKent90210]

bogus6948 you are really good with that silver cue even though you had a higher score with the country cue, your game play just seemed spot on, maybe it's because it was your first few attempts and fatigue hadn't set in. I had to watch it a few times on YouTube on the lowest speed to see the scores. I think you could play well with any cue really but I wonder what kind of score you could get with the multimillionaire cue. I thought the silver cue was the titanium cue and also thought the teak cue was the beech cue lol.

[bogus6948]

Thank you for the kind words MaryKent90210

I actually do the best with... ready for it? the Bg cue (big surprise) Strangely enough, I don't seem to accumulate fatigue doing QF, that reel was after getting used to the cues, in some cases some several hours of playing with them

I was testing them because I came up with a theory that if you can knock in 2-4 balls on break *consistently*, it should be relatively easy to break 14 racks. Problem I found with that (as far as my playing goes) is that

1. I can't seem to break that many out without also scratching a lot or
2. The cues tend to produce too much roll-out with my style of playing (low to no english)

My theory seems to stand, I don't think it was displayed in those clips, but at one point I entered the 5th rack with 4+ minutes of time which is something I can not get done with the Bg cue so far but is easily done with the Silver , Blue Hope, Standard, Country, and I think Majestic (sp?) cues. Unfortunately, for some reason from the 5th rack on my breaking produces more scratches than balls potted, and the time rapidly declines from there on out

[bogus6948]

I'm sorry, I completely forgot to answer this question

bogus6948 I think you could play well with any cue really but I wonder what kind of score you could get with the multimillionaire cue. I thought the silver cue was the titanium cue and also thought the teak cue was the beech cue lol.

The answer would be a really terrible very low score, sometimes when I use that cue, I can't even make the 3rd round, but my scratch score goes up immensely

[MaryKent90210]

That's okay bogus6948, I did think your answer was implied, but your right, you know your ability and whats best for you. There's a big difference between playing Quick Fire fast or smart, I've failed miserably so many times trying to be fast only to have it bite me in the behind, cue ball goes flying across the table for 7 sec before it scratches in the end. Dang Quick Fire, if balls was counted on my profile from playing that game I'd have at least a million balls potted. It's fun too. I was kinda making a video request actually, the multimillionaire cue was your highest stat cue that I seen.

[bogus6948]

Oh, making a vid is no problem at all, planning on a long table run tomorrow, actually, before the mowing starts

*Edit - Ok, actually tonight haha. This is the farthest I've ever gotten with the MM cue

https://youtu.be/zKGyfF7hOBs

[MaryKent90210]

Thant's not so bad Bogus, I do admit more times than not when I use that cue I scratch, it sure is easy to miss judge a powerful cue, the multimillionaire cue works better for me on 9 ball and not so good for me on 8 ball. You did handle the cue really well. I enjoyed your video Bogus and thank you for taking the time to make it, the combo at 9:10 was awesome!!!

[bogus6948]

Your extremely welcome to whatever enjoyment can be obtained from it The combo you mention of course was extreme luck that I didn't hook the lip on the side pocket, the side pockets in this game hate me

it sure is easy to miss judge a powerful cue

Funny thing is, I use other cues more powerful than this one without issue. There is just something goofy about this cue I think, the stats don't warrant the action on it

[MaryKent90210]

I agree bogus6948, I'm fairly certain the Gold cue level two, not the millionaire cue has same stats as the multimillionaire cue and they do play different, if I remember correctly the only difference is one had more time, I would have to check to be sure. I'm no fan of the multimillionaire cue, only good for scratching mostly, I could master it if I only used it all the time but yeah, its kinda a unpredictable cue. I have noticed other cues like that, the shaman cue maxed out and the classic cue maxed out only has 1 difference and that being the the shaman cue has one stat of aim higher than the classic cue and they play way different for me, it is weird though. I've been using the multimillionaire cue on some of my accounts to do the lucky shots because the stats are the same but it is touchy. I played a QF game earlier with the BG cue and only did bank shots and some how I almost made it to the 4th rack, that BG cue isn't to be underestimated.

[MaryKent90210]

bogus6948 What recording software do you use, is it a Linux only program.

[bogus6948]

The software I use for recording is vokoscreen , which is available free and open source for both Windows and Linux (of course, I am using the 'nix version heh). I much preferred the older version of it, but was recently unknowingly updated to the current version. I find the current to be suitable on 'nix, I have no idea how well it works on Windows.

For any video editing (mostly speeding up long clips), I use Kdenlive, which is also free and open source and is available for all 3 desktop platforms (Windows / 'nix / Mac).

[bogus6948]

I agree bogus6948, <sic>... I have noticed other cues like that, the shaman cue maxed out and the classic cue maxed out only has 1 difference and that being the the shaman cue has one stat of aim higher than the classic cue and they play way different for me...<sic>

Yah, I made note of the goofy differences between identical cues a long time ago when I first joined, but either people didn't notice, didn't agree, or just generally lacked interest in the topic

There are many cues like that, the 'standard' vs. 'eagle' cues for instance, identical stats except for time, but playing them is very different for me, and the time shouldn't change any part of that. My theory is that aim and time bonus on a cue for some reason affects force / spin as a whole, despite having nothing to do with either, probably due to a funky implementation of the overall stat algorithm.

, it is weird though. I've been using the multimillionaire cue on some of my accounts to do the lucky shots because the stats are the same but it is touchy. I played a QF game earlier with the BG cue and only did bank shots and some how I almost made it to the 4th rack, that BG cue isn't to be underestimated.

The bg cue certainly makes it harder to overshoot/over roll your target, and a lot of shots I wouldn't even attempt with anything even a little stronger seem to roll right in. If I could figure out how to sink 2 balls on break instead of 1 consistently with it, I am pretty sure that coupled with the time saving qualities I'd have 14 racks no problem heh.

[MaryKent90210]

Thank you Bogus, I will try them all, I like trying new software and hey, open source. OBS studio is open source but I feel there has to be something better out there.

[MaryKent90210]

I agree Bogus, I find it a fascinating topic to be honest, others surely have noticed the difference on how exactly same stat cues play different, I did kinda think it was just me noticing this. My theory is each stat has a value up to 100% and even though some have the same stat the value isn't 100% of the possibility of the stat, its really hard for me to explain. But it is really weird how different these cues preform. I'd be interested in seeing a break with the beginner cue that guarantees a potted ball though. I have a break with it but it is the cue ball that's potted but its a good strategy that's difficult to play against and most fail on the attempt but helps very little when playing QF lol, I don't like using that break on opponents because it leaves me feeling shameful, lol. The pool game sure would be a way different game if the BG cue was the only cue, kinda like that play free mode without being signed in, all skill and way less flukes. Speaking of flukes, I played someone yesterday that I've played for years, usually the cleanest fair player ever, if I didn't know better I'd say they was cheating but I give them the benefit of the doubt but if ever there was a game I wished I recorded it was that one, I was in complete shock from what I was seeing, I'm still examining it over in my mind and haven't reached a conclusion yet but no one is that lucky, EVER, it was on a account that didn't matter to me and a 100k bet that also didn't matter to me but I thought highly of them. I will try and play them again though, they'll surely be playing around the same time today, I hope.

[bogus6948]

...I'd be interested in seeing a break with the beginner cue that guarantees a potted ball though. I have a break with it but it is the cue ball that's potted but its a good strategy that's difficult to play against and most fail on the attempt but helps very little when playing QF lol, I don't like using that break on opponents because it leaves me feeling shameful, lol. The pool game sure would be a way different game if the BG cue was the only cue, kinda like that play free mode without being signed in, all skill and way less flukes. Speaking of flukes, I played someone yesterday that I've played for years, usually the cleanest fair player ever, if I didn't know better I'd say they was cheating but I give them the benefit of the doubt but if ever there was a game I wished I recorded it was that one, I was in complete shock from what I was seeing, I'm still examining it over in my mind and haven't reached a conclusion yet but no one is that lucky, EVER, it was on a account that didn't matter to me and a 100k bet that also didn't matter to me but I thought highly of them. I will try and play them again though, they'll surely be playing around the same time today, I hope.

Me too ! but then, I'd like to see a break that guarantees potted balls regardless of the cue hahaha, I can pot a ball fairly consistently with the bg cue, but no guarantee it is going to happen all the time, just more likely than not.

Speaking of stick power/stats/etc, this will give you an idea of what I meant when I previously mentioned I don't have the problem the MM cue presents with other powerful cues, here is an example, I did not scratch once using this either



In case it isn't clear, this is the Ice cue, which is certainly in my opinion a powerful cue (I judge by the force stat).

[MaryKent90210]

bogus6948 Thanks for the links, VoloscreenNG is only 75 megabytes, I'm downloading it now. Dang Bogus, that is a good score, 9 racks 95% accuracy too. I like the level 1 of the ice cue, level 2 & 3 of the ice cue not so much.

[MaryKent90210]

Is the standalone zip of Kdenlive a portable version, should I get the installer?