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  • Ranks, Levels and Experience Points Information Thread

    Welcome!
    This thread contains all information about ranks, levels, bonusses and experience points.
    It hopes to provide you with all the necessary information, and help you to estimate how long it will take to reach a certain level or rank.

    First of all, you need to know that since December 11, 2012 the ranking system is no longer based on skill, but on experience points (XP).
    Basically the more you play, the higher your rank will be. Different amounts of XP are added depending on whether you win or lose a match, and what type of match you have played.
    You cannot lose experience points.

    Experience Points to be earned
    • There are currently 8 Pool bars available to play in all around the world. The different amounts of XP to be earned are all listed below. As of January 22, 2013 these were decreased with about 33%.

      Play against friends[list:1db0424909]No experience points added

    Practice Mode does not exist anymore unfortunately

    Downtown London Pub
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 14 XP
      Win: + 68 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 17 XP
      Win + 82 XP

    Sydney Marina Bar
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 35 XP
      Win: + 177 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 44 XP
      Win + 212 XP

    Cairo Kasbah
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 44 XP
      Win: + 270 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 68 XP
      Win + 324 XP

    Moscow Winter Club
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 72 XP
      Win: + 360 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 90 XP
      Win + 432 XP

    Tokyo Warrior Hall
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 177 XP
      Win: + 884 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 221 XP
      Win + 1,061 XP

    Las Vegas Full House
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 309 XP
      Win: + 1,547 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 387 XP
      Win + 1,856 XP

    Jakarta Volcano
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 707 XP
      Win: + 1,768 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + 442 XP
      Win + 2,122 XP

    Toronto Maple Suite
    • 1 vs 1
      Loss: + 884 XP
      Win: + 2,210 XP
      Tournament
      Loss: + ??? XP
      Win + ??? XP
    [/list:u:1db0424909]
    Ranks, Levels, Bonusses and Experience Points
    • The ranks are listed below, together with their levels, the experience points needed to reach the next level and the bonusses awarded for completing a level.
      You are awarded 50 Pool Coins every time you go up one level![list:1db0424909]Rank
      Level: XP needed to Extra Bonus
      reach next level (on top of the 50 Pool Coins)

      Trainee
      1 -> 2: 25
      2 -> 3: 127 5 Extended Guidelines
      Beginner
      3 -> 4: 231 Sydney 1 vs 1 unlocked
      4 -> 5: 472
      5 -> 6: 720 Sydney tournament unlocked
      Student
      6 -> 7: 976
      7 -> 8: 1,239 5 Increased Spins / Moscow 1 vs 1 unlocked
      8 -> 9: 1,772
      9 -> 10: 2,322 Moscow tournament unlocked
      Amateur
      10 -> 11: 2,887
      11 -> 12: 3,470
      12 -> 13: 4,070 Tokyo 1 vs 1 unlocked
      13 -> 14: 5,362 5 Increased Powers (not sure if on level 14???)
      14 -> 15: 6,693
      Skilled
      15 -> 16: 8,064 Tokyo tournament unlocked
      16 -> 17: 9,476
      17 -> 18: 10,930 5 Extended Guidelines
      -------------------------------------------------------------- (from here the XP formula holds)
      18 -> 19: 12,428 Las Vegas 1 vs 1 unlocked
      19 -> 20: 12,757
      20 -> 21: 13,096
      Semi-Pro
      21 -> 22: 13,443 Las Vegas tournament unlocked / Jakarta 1 vs 1 unlocked
      22 -> 23: 13,799 5 Increased Spins
      23 -> 24: 14,164
      24 -> 25: 14,540 Jakarta tournament unlocked
      25 -> 26: 14,925
      26 -> 27: 15,321
      27 -> 28: 15,727 5 Increased Powers ??? (unconfirmed)
      Professional
      28 -> 29: 16,143
      29 -> 30: 16,571
      30 -> 31: 17,010 Toronto 1 vs 1 unlocked
      31 -> 32: 17,461
      32 -> 33: 17,924 5 Extended Guidelines
      33 -> 34: 18,399
      34 -> 35: 18,886
      35 -> 36: 19,387
      Virtuoso
      36 -> 37: 19,901
      37 -> 38: 20,428 5 ???
      38 -> 39: 20,969
      39 -> 40: 21,525
      40 -> 41: 22,095
      41 -> 42: 22,681
      42 -> 43: 23,282 5 ???
      43 -> 44: 23,899
      44 -> 45: 24,532
      Expert
      45 -> 46: 25,182
      46 -> 47: 25,850
      47 -> 48: 26,535 5 ???
      48 -> 49: 27,238
      49 -> 50: 27,960
      50 -> 51: 28,701
      51 -> 52: 29,461
      52 -> 53: 30,242 5 Increased Powers
      53 -> 54: 31,043
      54 -> 55: 31,866
      Veteran
      55 -> 56: 32,710
      56 -> 57: 33,577
      57 -> 58: 34,467 5 Extended Guidelines
      58 -> 59: 35,380
      59 -> 60: 36,318
      60 -> 61: 37,280
      61 -> 62: 38,268
      62 -> 63: 39,282 5 Increased Spins ??? (unconfirmed)
      63 -> 64: 40,323
      64 -> 65: 41,392
      65 -> 66: 42,489
      Master
      66 -> 67: 43,615
      67 -> 68: 44,771 5 Increased Powers
      68 -> 69: 45,957
      69 -> 70: 47,175
      70 -> 71: 48,425
      71 -> 72: 49,708
      72 -> 73: 51,026 5 ???
      73 -> 74: 52,378
      74 -> 75: 53,766
      75 -> 76: 55,191
      76 -> 77: 56,653
      77 -> 78: 58,155 5 ???
      Grand Master
      78 -> 79: 59,696
      79 -> 80: 61,278
      80 -> 81: 62,901
      81 -> 82: 64,568
      82 -> 83: 66,279 5 Extended Guidelines
      83 -> 84: 68,036
      84 -> 85: 69,839
      85 -> 86: 71,689
      86 -> 87: 73,589
      87 -> 88: 75,539 5 Increased Spins
      88 -> 89: 77,541
      89 -> 90: 79,596
      90 -> 91: 81,705
      VIP
      91 -> 92: 83,870
      92 -> 93: 86,093 5 Increased Powers
      93 -> 94: 88,375
      94 -> 95: 90,716
      95 -> 96: 93,120
      96 -> 97: 95,588
      97 -> 98: 98,121 5 Extended Guidelines
      98 -> 99: 100,721
      99 -> 100: 103,391
      100 -> 101: 106,130
      101 -> 102: 108,943
      102 -> 103: 111,830
      103 -> 104: 114,793
      104 -> 105: 117,835
      Superstar
      105 -> 106: 120,958
      106 -> 107: 124,163
      107 -> 108: 127,454
      108 -> 109: 130,831
      109 -> 110: 134,298
      110 -> 111: 137,857
      111 -> 112: 141,510
      112 -> 113: 145,260
      113 -> 114: 149,110
      114 -> 115: 153,061
      115 -> 116: 157,117
      116 -> 117: 161,281
      117 -> 118: 165,555
      118 -> 119: 169,942
      119 -> 120: 174,446
      King
      120 -> 121: 179,068
      121 -> 122: 183,814
      122 -> 123: 188,685
      123 -> 124: 193,685
      124 -> 125: 198,818
      125 -> 126: 204,086
      126 -> 127: 209,494
      127 -> 128: 215,046
      128 -> 129: 220,745
      129 -> 130: 226,595
      130 -> 131: 232,599
      131 -> 132: 238,763
      132 -> 133: 245,090
      133 -> 134: 251,585
      134 -> 135: 258,252
      135 -> 136: 265,096
      136 -> 137: 272,121
      Pool God
      137 -> 138: 279,332
      etc...

    Additional information and patterns:
    --> Each time your rank increases, you need to complete 1 extra level to achieve the next rank! So far only the rank of King seems to be extended by 1 level.

    --> The first 17 levels of XP do not seem to follow a simple pattern, except that they increase, but starting from level 18 the following equation seems to hold:
    XP needed to obtain level X+1 = 7,761.477 * 1.0265^X
    where X is your current level.

    --> Bonuses: You recieve some bonuses each time you go up 1 level: 50 Pool Coins are awarded for levelling up and you get 5 Power Ups every 5 levels, starting from level 3 and ending at level 98.
    We are still uncertain about which Power-Ups are rewarded at quite some levels, so please feel free to add or correct!

    --> Some numbers I added to see how many XP you have gained, how far you are from the next rank, and from level 100:[/list:u:1db0424909][spoiler:1db0424909]Trainee (1 to 2)
    XP earned: 0
    XP next rank: 132
    XP to level 100: 3,594,763
    Beginner (3 to 5)
    XP earned: 132
    XP next rank: 1,423
    XP to level 100: 3,594,611
    Student (6 to 9)
    XP earned: 1,575
    XP next rank: 6,309
    XP to level 100: 3,593,188
    Amateur (10 to 14)
    XP earned: 7,884
    XP next rank: 22,482
    XP to level 100: 3,586,879
    Skilled (15 to 20)
    XP earned: 30,366
    XP next rank: 66,751
    XP to level 100: 3,564,397
    Semi-Pro (21 to 27)
    XP earned: 97,117
    XP next rank: 101,919
    XP to level 100: 3,497,646
    Professional (28 to 35)
    XP earned: 199,036
    XP next rank: 141,781
    XP to level 100: 3,395,727
    Vituoso (36 to 44)
    XP earned: 340,817
    XP next rank: 199,312
    XP to level 100: 3,253,946
    Expert (45 to 54)
    XP earned: 540,129
    XP next rank: 284,078
    XP to level 100: 3,054,634
    Veteran (55 to 65)
    XP earned: 824,207
    XP next rank: 411,488
    XP to level 100: 2,770,556
    Master (66 to 77)
    XP earned: 1,235,695
    XP next rank: 606,820
    XP to level 100: 2,359,070
    GrandMaster (78 to 90)
    XP earned: 1,842,515
    XP next rank: 912,256
    XP to level 100: 1,752,250
    VIP (91 to 104)
    XP earned: 2,754,771
    XP next rank: 1,399,525
    XP to level 100: 839,994
    Superstar (105 to 119)
    XP earned: 4,154,296
    XP next rank: 2,192,843
    King (120 to 136)
    XP earned: 6,347,139
    XP next rank: 3,783,542
    Pool God (137 to ?)
    XP earned: 10,130,681
    XP next rank: ?[/spoiler:1db0424909]Matches needed to achieve a certain amount of experience points
    • Lastly, I will explain how to estimate the number of matches you have to play to reach a certain level.

      Step 1: Check your personal win percentage.
      Step 2: Take the XP's listed in the first section from your favorite Pool Bar!
      Step 3: Find the amount of experience points you need to reach your goal (section 2 of this thread might be very useful for that!)
      Step 4: Calculate

      Matches TBP = XP Needed / (XPwin*Win% + XPloss*(1-Win%))
      (TBP = to be played to earn a certain amount of XP)

      For example:

      Step 1: 72.4% = 0.724
      Step 2: Moscow Winter Club 1 vs 1, so 360 XP for a win and 72 XP for a loss
      Step 3: XP Needed = 59,696 - 23,596 = 36,100 to reach level 79
      Step 4: Matches TBP = 36,100 / (360*.724 + 72*(1-.724)) = 129 matches to reach level 79.

      Example 2:
      Step 3: XP Needed = 1,752,253 - 23,596 = 1,728,657 to reach level 100
      Step 4: Matches TBP = 1,728,657 / (360*.724 + 72*(1-.724)) = 6163 matches to reach level 100.

      So to be clear: I will have to play 129 matches to reach the next level or 6163 to reach level 100.
      Not games won, matches played!

    I hope this has been of great help to you.
    Any feedback, suggestions, mistakes and missing information is always more than welcome!

  • #2
    Student starts on 6.
    Thanks for the thread! Good idea.
    I <3 Megan

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    • #3
      120 for winning a london tourney
      306 "connection errors" and counting...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by patperson100:11422
        Student starts on 6.
        Thanks for the thread! Good idea.
        Thanks, that's added!
        Originally posted by Salentine:11428
        120 for winning a london tourney
        Is that 1 win (or bonus), or 3 wins + bonus?


        I have now found a level 79 player, and compared the XP needed.
        The ratio is not a constant, so perhaps a propartional amount is added each time.
        I will need 3 XP needed in a row to establish that (preferably of levels as high as possible for accuracy, but low ones will do too I hope)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Player_X:11430
          Originally posted by Salentine:11428
          120 for winning a london tourney
          Is that 1 win (or bonus), or 3 wins + bonus?
          thats just for winning the final (3rd match)
          306 "connection errors" and counting...

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          • #6
            london T exp is confirmed at 120 per match
            and no exp bonus for winning the T

            level 3 exp requirement is 231

            Edit:

            10 exp for no price regular play
            100 exp for 50 price regular play
            260 exp for 200 price regular play
            530 exp for 1000 price regular play

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            • #7
              You are level 10 here. To reach level 11: 2887 ex points
              You are level 21 here. To reach level 22; 13443 ex points
              ~~Have fun

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sandhinfk:11440
                london T exp is confirmed at 120 per match
                and no exp bonus for winning the T

                level 3 exp requirement is 231

                Edit:

                10 exp for no price regular play
                100 exp for 50 price regular play
                260 exp for 200 price regular play
                530 exp for 1000 price regular play
                Originally posted by Sim:11478
                You are level 10 here. To reach level 11: 2887 ex points
                You are level 21 here. To reach level 22; 13443 ex points
                All added, and thanks for your input!
                That tournament bonus must have been some hallucination of mine,
                because I can't seem to observe it anymore
                I also updated the lay-out a bit.

                Now I still need to:
                - distablish some more rank levels
                - figure out if playing with a friend gives experience points
                - and most importantly, find the formula for experience points needed to reach the next level!
                I really need the requirements for at least 3 levels in a row, please help me with that if you find a missing one!
                Someone who was planning on starting over with an alternate account would be very helpful

                Any more suggestions, remarks, additions, mistakes? Let me know.

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                • #9
                  15 - 16 : 8064 pts
                  ~~Have fun

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                  • #10
                    Great idea and thread....well done!

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                    • #11
                      NEW: I discovered the pattern of the rank levels: Each time your rank increases, you need to complete 1 extra level to achieve the next rank!


                      But it seems that the experience point formula is a lot less consistent than I expected.
                      With your help I've already gathered quite some information,
                      but I haven't been able to figure out 1 single pattern, does somebody else see something I don't?
                      I now begin to wonder whether there will be a formula afterall.
                      But if there isn't, that list will do just fine I guess

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                      • #12
                        exp for 7 to 8: 1239

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                        • #13
                          guys, when you level up do you start from zero again or keep the total so far?
                          example - so when i go up to level 79 (59,696 points) do i start from zero again or only need to go from 59,696 to 61,278 to get to level 80?
                          306 "connection errors" and counting...

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                          • #14
                            You start from zero. I am pretty sure.
                            I've seen a few people on level 80, that only have a few points.
                            I <3 Megan

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                            • #15
                              Here's a plot of what we got so far.
                              It seems to be a very strange curve,
                              and not one from which I can derive a formula or even fit a simple (2nd order polynomial, exponential, ...) function through.



                              I will try again later with even more data,
                              and devide the curve into sections for each rank and see what that gives.
                              For now it still seems semi-random.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Player_X:11531
                                Now I still need to:
                                - distablish some more rank levels
                                - figure out if playing with a friend gives experience points
                                - and most importantly, find the formula for experience points needed to reach the next level!
                                I really need the requirements for at least 3 levels in a row, please help me with that if you find a missing one!
                                Someone who was planning on starting over with an alternate account would be very helpful

                                Any more suggestions, remarks, additions, mistakes? Let me know.
                                i've figured out the experience points for the next levels, let me show you with an example...
                                45 -> 46: 25,182
                                46 -> 47: 25,850 +668 difference 17
                                47 -> 48: 26,535 +685 difference 18
                                48 -> 49: 27,238 +703 difference 19
                                so to get from 49 -> 50 will be 27238+703+20 = 27961 points
                                and then...
                                50 -> 51: 27961+723+21 = 28705
                                51 -> 52: 28705+744+22 = 29471
                                etc etc etc
                                306 "connection errors" and counting...

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                                • #17
                                  edit: no it's close but not quite...
                                  45
                                  46 25182 668 17
                                  47 25867 685 18
                                  48 26570 703 19
                                  49 27292 722 20
                                  50 28034 742 21
                                  51 28797 763 22
                                  52 29582 785 23
                                  53 30390 808 24
                                  54 31222 832 25
                                  55 32079 857 26
                                  56 32962 883 27
                                  57 33872 910 28
                                  58 34810 938 29
                                  59 35777 967 30
                                  60 36774 997 31
                                  61 37802 1028 32
                                  62 38862 1060 33
                                  63 39955 1093 34
                                  64 41082 1127 35
                                  65 42244 1162 36
                                  66 43442 1198 37
                                  67 44677 1235 38
                                  68 45950 1273 39
                                  69 47262 1312 40
                                  70 48614 1352 41
                                  71 50007 1393 42
                                  72 51442 1435 43
                                  73 52920 1478 44
                                  74 54442 1522 45
                                  75 56009 1567 46
                                  76 57622 1613 47
                                  77 59282 1660 48
                                  78 60990 1708 49
                                  79 62747 1757 50
                                  80 64554 51
                                  306 "connection errors" and counting...

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                                  • #18
                                    As a Legend I am plainly not shy of putting the time in to win games. And as a foirmer Grand Master (played too many games while tired just before the update and am now a 66/Master) I can play a good game.

                                    However, the sheer volume of games that must now be played in order to progress from Rank to Rank (i.e. named ramk not the new Point steps) is now so very large that I can guarantee that the number of regular players will drop. Folks will lose interest.
                                    Never Strike Dead Centre.......

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by RunOutNow:11784
                                      As a Legend I am plainly not shy of putting the time in to win games. And as a foirmer Grand Master (played too many games while tired just before the update and am now a 66/Master) I can play a good game.

                                      However, the sheer volume of games that must now be played in order to progress from Rank to Rank (i.e. named ramk not the new Point steps) is now so very large that I can guarantee that the number of regular players will drop. Folks will lose interest.
                                      After a post here, a day or two before the update by miss morris, I played back to Grand Master and then didn't play again until after the update.
                                      3 wins I think it was to get back after I dropped to master, now the difference between 66 and 78 I think which depending on which level entry games played could equate to over 1000 games now.
                                      http://www.miniclip.com/user/5323529/en/

                                      Check out my page linked above and challenge my scores.

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                                      • #20
                                        The way how previous players skills were converted to new levels is absolutely stupid and unfair! It is clear for all really good players who had "master" status having lost a few games just before the conversion. It is clear that players with win ratio >60% and total games played >5000 can't be compared to some lucky amateurs who only had the "grand master" status at the moment of conversion (and win ratio ~51% for example) ! Can't beleive that they made such a stupid thing!

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